
The Career Ready Podcast
The Career Ready Podcast
Networking Reimagined: Building Support and Finding Opportunities with COD Student Juan Hernandez
Networking doesn’t have to feel awkward or transactional. In this episode of Career Podcast, host Marisela Morales explores a new way to think about networking: as building community, trust, and support systems that can open doors to real opportunities. We also talk with College of DuPage student Juan Hernandez, who shares his personal experiences attending conferences and joining clubs, how his understanding of networking has evolved, and the positive outcomes he’s seen so far. Listeners will walk away with practical tips on starting small, making genuine connections, and using networking as a tool for mentorship, career growth, and confidence.
Below is a general timestamp summary.
00:00–02:30 – Introduction to networking as community-building, not just business cards and handshakes.
02:30–06:30 – Why networking matters and where to build connections (campus, online, community).
06:30–09:30 – Juan Hernandez shares his background and how he began networking through Alpha.
09:30–13:00 – Juan’s evolving view of networking and his authentic, conversational approach.
13:00–18:00 – Preparing for events, using LinkedIn, and making meaningful connections.
18:00–21:00 – A success story from a Deloitte event that boosted Juan’s confidence.
21:00–26:00 – Advice for students new to networking and starting with peer interactions.
26:00–29:00 – How faculty and clubs led to job and scholarship opportunities.
29:00–34:30 – Juan’s mindset on persistence, giving back, and building a support system.
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Welcome to the podcast, the show that helps you navigate your career with confidence and be career ready. Today we're exploring a fresh perspective on networking, whether it must be on business cards and handshakes to focus on building real support systems and community networking doesn't have to feel awkward and transactional. Rather, it can be about asking for guidance, offering encouragement, and building connections, just like we do with friends and family members. When approached this way, networking can open doors to job opportunities, mentorships, and advice, while also creating a stronger sense of belonging and professional spaces. To bring this conversation to life. We'll be hearing from College of DuPage student one at Landis, who has been actively involved in networking with student clubs and even professional conferences, who share how he first learned about networking, how this perspective has evolved, and the positive results he's already experienced. We'll also offer practical tips for students who are just starting out, and may feel unsure about where to begin. When most people hear the word networking, they usually think of something awkward. Maybe you picture a roomful of people in suits heading up business cards, trying to sell themselves, and it can feel fake, intimidating, maybe even a little slimy. But I want you to challenge yourself to think about networking as something different, instead of thinking of it as working a room. I want you to think of networking as building a support system. Most of us already know how to do this because we do this every day of our lives. Think about your family, your neighbors, your closest friends. You don't build these relationships because you are keeping a score or because you are expecting them to pay you back. You do this because you want to support each other, make your lives easier for one another, and because you enjoy getting to know each other, learn from one another. This is essentially networking in professional settings. Networking doesn't have to be about swapping favors or putting on a show. It's about connecting with people who share your interests, who've walked in your shoes, and who might have knowledge that makes your journey a little easier. It's about trust, curiosity, and community. Just like the relationships you already value. First, let's talk about why you would network. You might want to network because you want to hear about opportunities a little early on. Maybe you have a class classmate that will tell you about an internship before it gets posted early, or a professor might connect you to a research project. You might want to find a mentor or boost your confidence. You might want to get real world advice or experience. Build your support system. Learn to build better communication skills or expand your world. View. You might want to get your name out there or collaborate with others. Or finally, you might want to plant the seed for future experiences. But how can we approach networking? Well, start with curiosity. Networking isn't just about what you get, it's about learning. Ask questions. Be genuinely curious about someone's work, about their journey, or about advice they might have. People are often happy to share this information. Also, share your story and be authentic. We often talk about having an elevator pitch, and this is always great as it helps others understand who you are as a professional and it helps you connect with the listener. That said, don't get too caught up in reciting a script. Be yourself and explain what you have going on, what excites you and what you're curious about. Honesty often goes further than just trying to sound impressive. Then think long term. A single conversation may not pay off immediately, and that's okay. Networking is about planting seeds. Stay in touch even if it's just checking in once in a while. By asking how somebody is doing or sharing an article that reminded you of them, then give before you ask. Remember that networking is a two way street, and providing support can be quite simple. Try things like encouraging someone, celebrating their wins, recommending a resource, or connecting them with someone else. Small gestures build trust and create community. So where can we build network? Lots of places. Let's start with schools and campus spaces. Try building community with your professors, classmates, career services, alumni, school events and clubs. Next workplaces network with your coworkers, supervisors, clients at conferences, professional development opportunities, and even vendors you often interact with. Related to this, we have professional associations. There are many free and discount memberships for students and even early career professionals. There are also online spaces such as LinkedIn, professional forums, slack groups, and even following people on X, formerly known as Twitter, and engaging with professional professionals on posts. Related to this, we have professional associations. There are many that have free or discounted memberships for students or early career professionals, We also have online spaces such as Linked In, professional forums, slack groups, and even following professionals on X and engaging with their posts. And finally, do not underestimate opportunities given at community organizations such as volunteering, neighborhood groups, cultural associations, faith communities, and even at informal settings such as coffee shops, gyms, local events, and even such things as golfing. Sometimes the most meaningful connections happen at the least expected times. We talked about how networking doesn't have to be transactional or intimidating. It could be about building community trust and support systems. Just like the relationships we value in our everyday lives. But seeing as how I am well in my career, I appreciate how it may sound like my perspective is a little skewed, and I wanted to give our listeners the perspective to hear from somebody who is walking through an experience very much like their own. What does networking look like from someone who is just starting out? How does a college student, still early in their career navigate clubs, conferences, and professional spaces? Today I'm joined by Juan Hernandez, an accounting student at College of DuPage who's been actively participating in networking opportunities on campus and beyond. He's here to share what he's learned, what's worked for him, and his advice for other students who may feel unsure about how to begin. Welcome one. Thank you. My. So before we start, I want you to tell us a little bit about yourself, whether it's your major, your interests, or what are the networking opportunities you've been involved in so far. Anything you'd like to share with us? Okay. So my name is Juan. I'm a second year history and CDA sophomore. I start in 2024. My major, of course, is accounting. Again, something that I really like interest. I like just to be involved in school. Something that I just started doing in my last semester in spring because I wasn't doing before. I wasn't doing it before. Now, that came about in the networking opportunities that I have done. So far. can say that I didn't do it like, before this year. Like I never did it before. I thought I was, you know, something from the outside. Then I wanted to change that, you know, because of Franklin. And you need to know those recruiters, those people, those professionals. So I started going to meetings or activities for an organization called Alpha, those called Latino Professionals of America. They usually try to connect, you know, early professionals, students, native people in the community with managers, directors or maybe people that are already in a more high position side of like the business environment, mostly by business majors, finance, accounting, lawmakers as well. And yeah, just getting like going to one event, talking to a few people, then going to the next one. Then I start going to universities because they had like a small like spark clubs or chapters, how they college through the old Chicago area and, you know, nationwide too and just taking those connections. That's why I started. So admittedly, you and I know each other because we work in the same office, and I was really blown away by how at ease you seem to be. how just naturally it came to you. But I want to ask you, when you first heard of the concept networking, what did it mean to you? And how has that meaning of networking changed over time for you? so I had never heard of networking before my first semester class in accounting. Financial accounting I never thought about like I never knew what it was. I never heard about that. Where I was like, okay, whatever. My teacher was telling those, hey guys, you had to do. The networking is something that you build relationship with professional to help the with your friends, with your bosses, with you career, all that. Okay, so basically it's me talking to people. That's what I taught. Very simple. Didn't go beyond that. Let it on the semester I wanted to looking for my internships, getting ready for that or you know, like, are you ready? And I start going to the networking process, going to those events, talking to people, building those relationships. And realized, look, we are by the end of the summer. It goes way beyond that. It's just a way to just make connections, like meaningful connections, I mean, with professionals to be your friends as well, because you don't have I is everywhere. So if I'm making, like, a really good relationship with someone and they see an opportunity and they think about, hey, I know this guy that I've been talking and or whatever, they're going to send that to me. I don't have access to all those, you know, deposits on LinkedIn all the time. So if I see something as well, I can send that to the people that I know. And those are small things usually help you out to get scholarships, gain internships, get it, go to events, sometimes just to learn. So is was a change like it was nothing for me. Like no idea. And coming out of no way to start doing it and getting something out of the. And I love what you just said right now, that it really is just like the little things, that it's just that it could just be the little connections because you never know where it could lead. And that's exactly what we're trying to to. Get out there and and also about connecting and about friendships and support systems. I think that that is something that, whenever we think about networking, there's kind of this really ugly idea that we have that it's kind of, people using each other, but really it is what we make it out to be, Networking is what you make it. And so networking, if you want it to be about building friendships and supporting each other, if that is what you make it into, that is what it can be. That is what and that is what you are creating. You are creating a support system. And that is what I see. I see that you have these friendships. And for example, I saw that you had that when you went to that conference in Las Vegas with your friends and you had. And I won't go into that just in case you decide to talk about that in a moment. But, just see so many wonderful things coming out of your experiences, in your networking experiences, which I find so inspiring. And so going on to the to the next question I wanted to ask you, how would you describe your style of networking? Like, for example, when you reach out to individuals, do you focus on asking questions, sharing stories? Do you build over time? Is it something that you feel like you already have a style, or do you do you have a style? Or is it just something that you just kind of see where, a connection takes you? How do you how do you approach networking at this point? Okay. Great question. So so I remember when we started, when I was started doing like the networking part and getting like in talking to people, I was overthinking it. Like I want to just to sound natural and think that I'm getting like a transactional relationship. Are you mentioned like, yeah, I'm not doing this just to get something on to you. I actually want to meet you. So was like, okay, to just thinking, like, even though it's an early professional worry. So someone over a long in their career just take the first step of have how are you? How is your thing? What things happened this morning on the way here on the way to work? Yes. Duffy was crazy. You know, whether it was crazy to make something like that. Like, there another person there, another human being. So don't want to change in any situation that I want to say. Even though if someone is a CEO of some company, CFO of any company, they still had to deal with traffic and they still had to take the metro or the public transportation or anything like that. So once you break the ice, like, you know, like a big icebreaker, then when you feel more comfortable, it's just going to be the time to, hey, this is who I am, okay? I'm a serious student. I go to school with my second year. I really want to get prepared in my career to just to, you know, get ahead and think opportunities in the future. Boom. Let's go into one question okay. You guys on for something like that, where the staff you know, what things say you're looking for, how do you start? And I just goes, I know. So at the when I was overthinking it with the time, I discovered that people just want to have a nice conversation. Sometimes people don't get that. So it's good. I think that is so thoughtful. That is such a real thing to just humanize people. Because You're right. Like, sometimes people are just so anxious to get something from an individual that they forget that they might be having a bad day. They might have had, you know, they might have been in really bad traffic, or they might have, almost had a bad, like a bad accident on their way over. And they just want a breather and to just have somebody say, how are you? Is a little bit of a refresh, of a refreshing experience to have somebody say, you know, to ask them something about them instead of, making it all about, this is what I would love for you to do for me. So that is a really wonderful thing, too. I just have one more thing to add to that. Like take it in and you look at Xperience that I have is once you go to someone and you start asking those regular questions, you can also feel where this is going. You're going to feel the you. I can talk to this person when we get along, or maybe we don't. So you can also learn to have them give them the space because, you know, maybe you start right away. They're going to feel uncomfortable. They won't have a good image of you. But if you say, hey, how are you? And then like very shy, then that's something back. You know what? Okay, maybe they're not on the time or in the mood. So that's also a good way is to test the water. Okay. I okay, good. Fantastic. You know what? Let me go and ask somebody else. That's more than five. So it's another thing to keep in mind that is a really great point. Absolutely. And is there a besides doing the, the, the asking, you know, kind of doing the, the little icebreaker, is there anything else that you do to kind of prepare yourself? Do you do any sort of background information, any sort of and do you do any sort of preparation beforehand when you do go to these networking opportunities? You know, do you research companies, do you, review your resume, anything in particular that you do, do you prepare? A do you prepare your, your elevator pitch? Anything in particular? Yes. So I usually when I go to places like that, I usually know who is going, like, you know, the speakers like, maybe you know, the main company because usually it's call companies to host it. So let's say I remember in the summer, Morningstar, hosted one of the Interview Preps sessions that we went to and that okay noise morning. I know where the speakers. So I get ready for that. Once we got there, they hired out a bunch of professionals from different companies, so there's no way to be prepared. There were 30 professionals ready to take the students, so there's no way to get ready. But hey, just how about wherever you are, like, that's enough. And then if you are on display Nation and you hear the speakers and they mention the company, so maybe they have the names. So people that you want to talk to be focused like, hey, okay, I know they have from one I remember that from banking, finance, marketing, HR and accounting. I'm going to go straight to the people in accounting. Those are 4 or 5 people. I took their names and select them on LinkedIn right away. Oh, that was out and yeah. So then you guys have any idea where they were? How long have you been working? If they intend somewhere that you like, and then you also see where they went to school. So all those three things do. Okay. That's a good idea. You don't tell them that you looked at LinkedIn, you know, just like, okay, so once I go there, I know I will talk about this company. They intern with. And they've been working for a while. And then he also I'm thinking about transferring to XYZ school. What do you think about it as. So you know, people like to talk about themselves. So that's just a good idea. Like he would think about the school and like, oh, I went to that school. So that's pretty good. You know there's I love there. Yeah I'm pretty quick. But just enough at a time of the same moment that is happening I love her. That's amazing. That is a really amazing tip. I love it. It gives the opportunity for them to, like you said, talk about themselves to make that connection. Okay. Absolutely. I love it. And so with regard to I want you to I want you to tell me, because I know that you've had a lot of really wonderful successes. Is there any specific story that you would like to share that has had a any specific, positive, networking experiences that you have had that you would like to share with us? thought it was brilliant. I think I have a ton of them. I think right now I'm going to take the one that's close, more meaningful at the time for me and like, it changed my perspective. So before I go into the convention in Vegas, that was in that because we have a precondition worship here in Chicago that was in like July early like early days of July, and that was hosted by Deloitte. So I was like, hey, is my first time going to the light tower and all that. And I thought, I was going to be, you know, hosted by the Alpha people, not the do, you know, recruited from the lead. So I give there it's the light tower. And I was doing that. And so he turned and then I went there, like very scary, you know, like, thrilled with this cat show with the rest of it because I recently, you know, people convention workshops are we where we can resume as an elevator pitch and all that. And I got there and it's like, okay, this sound like a presentation. And they were talking like the main points always, you know, the first beginning when remember having this structure good template I create these same fun. And then we get divided into groups. Smartkom for people, for group. And I was a lot of people then I got like kinda late. So I have it another table with people that I don't know. So we can and that and they bring the professionals and things to each other and they start talking and taking out Wrestlemanias asking us, you know, our elevator speech, what they respect to get out of the convention. And I remember that the first time talking to our crew for our big four, even though it was a Deloitte event, it was people from NY and KPMG on the same. We were helping the students with us for Alpha and at the time and retain like someone take a look at my resume and say, hey, yeah, it looks good. I really liked it. And then talking more about me and then you say, okay, you know, I'll give me your information, I will see you at convention. And then when I went to the convention, I saw them, and then I got a comfy chair with a professional KPMG as well. And I remember having that conversation and it was just something that it was it wasn't like a huge scene, but it was a game changer. The way that I feel about like, okay, I feel good. Maybe someone can see it, someone can appreciate what I'm doing and the way that it looks, you know, so, you know, Supreme a small thing, but it really changed my perspective. I was so happy when I left that night. Like, you know, I'm telling this girl, let's get ready. Let's keep doing it. Oh, you know, this whole thing that it really is. That is amazing. Congratulations. That's excellent. So some students may not feel comfortable with the idea of networking or even understand the purpose of it. What advice do you have for them? at the beginning is 100% ha is there's no easy way to to to say, the first time you're going to feel where you say that, you feel like you're bothering people. That's one thing you're going to feel. But why they want to hear from me? If I'm a student and they already are where they want in life? No. But the thing with the professionals and the people that take time to go to those events is that they want to help the students so that they actually want to they genuinely want to spend their time helping somebody else because they were in your position. Most of them, the people that I have met having to community college as well. So, okay, I went to community college as well. I went to university. So I want to come back and if I can give you any tips and advice, you know, help the students. So it's up to you. Take that as opportunities. They're going to go out of your comfort zone. You had to do it to, practice at home. That practice with your friends. I have one tip to to keep in mind. If you're a very shy, you know, not very outgoing before you start going to those networking with professionals, standalone events. And you school like go to the clubs, look to the meetings, look like those events they do like from the campus organization for activities. We go to those start talking to students, same people, don't you? It's like there's like a safe space. Then you talk to someone new, okay. Once you are able to have those conversations, I start getting ready and we go to learn and work. So I think that is a great tip. I think that's great because these are your peers and, and, and it's a great opportunity to also make friends because not only are you're on the same boat, but eventually all of you will get out there in the work in the workforce as well. They might be connections so that once they are out in the workforce, you might be able to help them land a job. They might be able to help you get a job. You never know where your paths will lead. So I think you're absolutely right. It's it is a really wonderful opportunity to network with fellow peers. And and that's a really wonderful place to start. You are absolutely right. And so what are so then and this kind of leads already into number six, which is what are some small, simple steps someone could start to build their network, which is starting with peers, also professors, professors as well. Tell me a little bit, do you think that that also helps professors, maybe clubs? I know that you, are involved with clubs as well. Tell me about that. You you volunteer. You are very active with volunteering and clubs. Can you tell me a little bit more about that? Okay. So I want to start fresh with the faculty and first, lots more. I think there's a main point like here, in my first semester. I'm going to do my example right now. So my first semester to get into the business class it was super easy. Class I one on one class, I just went there and I enjoy the class. I remember being there and being participating, doing my homework, showing up that, being excited. So I get along with my professor. I remember that I talk to happen like a lot of us, you know, I was paying attention. I was the going to class doing those events, doing the presentations. And then on the summer of this year, I don't know where, you know, I see if I see here, I t hi. How's it going? Everything. You're just asking me how I'm doing. I'm very good, you know that, like, very small stuff. But then she reached out to me, like via email. She sent me an email. One has something. I know someone from a company that's looking for a student from CD, those I like in accounting, bookkeeping. And I thought of you like, that's just enough. I thought of you. I send you the opportunity. If you want to, I can connect you with, a career at the time with the CFO, the company that was doing the interviews. I'm like, yes, of course. Fantastic. Right away, of course she sent that. And it's like it's a whole different process when you a core like call her applying to getting referred by someone. So she goes, you send an email to my boss, it's called Read and Hikari. This is one I know him, one of the students I know you ask me for that. Have a time to meet and like, right away. I got an interview two days later, and I go to the interview, and it's just a different feeling. You know, you from a quantum world, you feel excited. You know that. At least you have a good start. You know, it's like a it's a very start. And I go through the interview and I got the job is where I work right now as well. And I enjoy it. And he's fantastic. He was chosen because of the love of my professor, you know, keeping connections. Be nice, enjoying like, actually enjoy. I think that's a point. You can be a good student and maybe you don't like the class. You know, you don't feel like you don't have to like all the classes. But if there's one class, say you will enjoy go, you know, give do the extra step that that's something that I would recommend. Now, coming back to this, and being by the school, one club that I did here study we started last semester was kind of I remember going to the hub that we have here talking to them. I started building relationships. There I met two of my closest friends. Out of those closest friends, you know, we stay hanging out a lot. We go out, we travel, we go to you. We stay here until the close at 11, and then we tag in the parking lot until 12 in the night. You know, all this time, we spend a lot of time to go and out of those friendships. Then he knew another person, somebody else called Kimberly then, and he's another kind of student. So I start talking to her and she then later say, you know, I have this opportunity because she's a senior, okay, he apply to this, apply to this scholarship, apply to this interview that came out of that. And then, you know, even though you try a thousand things like I remember applying to hundreds of jobs and hundreds of internship, most of educated rejected. No, that's one thing. But there is this point where you accept that no one of them over, you get a scholarship. One of the last scholarships that I got was because Kimberly sent it to me. She was sent to me, applied, and and I was trying, and it was like three essays that they had to write. I was doing it. And the last day I was like, I haven't finished it. And she was like, hey, Juan, send that, send that sentence. And and I did it on the last day and I sent the application and last month I got the scholarship. Oh, right. So she good. And it's like, hey, I just nothing really. And I just had the opportunity because I first I'm making a friend here and then you got a real relationship out of that, a real friendship. And you know, those people start talking about you now. He thought, okay, I know another friend. Let me connect you because I care about her and about you as well. So that was one things. Now coming back, just being here, school, volunteering, being a tables, talking to people. It's gonna help you get more confident. Like. Yep. You know what? I talked to someone. I didn't go, well, okay, I learned how it is. I know I won't do it again. Okay, let's try this different way. And you start, you know, burning those things, those mistakes are already here. School where he's like, you know, very like consequences and consequences. You know, like a funny story that people tell you where we or whatever, but they, they in life, you know, you just enjoy it later is going to enjoy. And then later on you're going to have the students have the confidence and the charisma to talk with professional recruiters or your interviewers, at the company that you want to be. I love that and I what I love about your perspective is that you are always talking about putting yourself out there. You recognize that, you know, you're it's like you said, like you you might feel. And what I love is that you're telling the audience like, you know, it may not be easy. Like it wasn't easy for me. And yes, I did make mistakes, but then I learned from them. And I also love that you are telling the audience to not give up. You're telling them, you know, to, you know that. You're telling them about how you have forged these authentic relationships and how you have had these wonderful experiences. And, you know, for example, with the internships and with the scholarships, you didn't get hired for 100% of the internships that you applied to. You didn't get all of the scholarships that you, applied for, but you didn't give up. You continue to apply and you got them. You don't give up. You continue to grow as a professional, and you will get there and you will eventually succeed, and you will continue to grow as a professional. I love your positive outlook on things. I really enjoy how I really enjoy listening to your optimism and how everything is about growth and and and how you are. You have all of these really wonderful relationships, but how they're also just these sincere relationships, how, you know, you continue to expand this network. And yes, you do have these wonderful opportunities, but it's opportunities to develop a support system. You're there for them, just like they're there for you, which is precisely what we're trying to get out there. That networking isn't just about using each other. It's about it's not. It's not this slimy thing that so many of us have always grown to think of when we whenever we see, like, movies and stuff like that. No, it's about growing a community and helping each other out. and I'm saying this to the audience, is exactly what networking can be. And I'm so glad you were absolutely the perfect guest to have on for this, for this episode, because I feel like you really do embody the perfect example of what networking can and really should be. Thank you so much for joining us. And I do want to end with, this last question, bringing it back to you. I would love to know, what do you hope to do as you continue to grow as a professional? What do you want to do? You know, with your networking, with your connections, once you, you know, graduate, where do you want to take, networking? Once you go into your professional, once you grow into your career, what do you hope to do? Just one last thing that I just want to add before we close with the question is afraid of somebody that, I met recently. She. She told me that is is not rejection is really reaction. So. Yes. Yes. You got rejected or whatever it is. But it's another way to. Okay, let's go to the other way. So it's just I'll just keep that in mind. Very small phrase. It's not rejection is really rejection. Now going back to what I to get out of, you know, with networking after graduation, it's just if I have the opportunity to the same things that people did for me back. Yes. And are going to be an early professional. My first two, three, four years of my career, I know that I can come back and do the same interview path. Hairdresser may have conversation this coffee chat with other students at the time. They're going to be first year, second year students as they did with me. It's just I need to give the same thing back. You know? I just like they didn't for me. I had to be back again for them now to get a lot more develop in my career is just I had to know my peers. I know I had to know with who I'm working with and keep going to those things showing up. I'm showing my face right there. They won't only remember the people they see, so it's like, if you never shut up, if you know, volunteer, if you don't do the extra, you know, I'm not talking about the extra step walking like working, but is me like, hey, you. So I know about going to those lunches. Ain't those coffee chatty? Everybody's going to a lunch outgoing at the office. Okay. Let's go. The designer office. I didn't know at the beginning. Like, you know, when they going down at lunch and Thursday. I'm coordinating lunch on Thursday as well. The just part of that, so, yeah, it's just keep going and and maybe not under perfect not looking as a professional to talk to other professionals, but more like a professional talking to students. As I like to go love that I love. And I, I absolutely see you don't see me doing that, I do. I think that you are definitely an inspiration and I just see so much coming from you. So thank you so much for joining us. I really do appreciate it. And with that, I want to once again, thank everyone for joining us today. With today's episode, there are no listener questions. However, if you have a question, you could submit it to Career Podcast at Code Edu or on social media at Code Career Center, and you may hear the answer in a future episode. Thanks to all our listeners and special thanks to Juan Hernandez for joining the Career Ready podcast. We hope you have a better understanding of networking.